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Ollieleet
08-09-2008, 10:38 PM
Now I've decided to make a guide on this because it seems like every time someone post's that they recently got a 2k2 intimidator a lot of people post saying "2k5 it". Now you might be wondering what does 2k5ing mean exactly I'm here to explain what that means. I suppose there is a guide on PBnation but it's full of dead links and not very detailed.

Alright so let's get started 2k5ing means to take an older intimidator & add 2k5 parts to it. Is this necessary to do to a 2k2 intimidator? No it's not although it does seem to be quite popular among many owners of 2k2 intimidators.

Parts to do this are..
2k5 style frame of course!
2k5 Board
2k5 wiring (It can be purchased from crankwalk here on the forums)

Now if you want to FULLY 2k5 your marker you're going to want to get on top of the already stated items...

Ram/Ram Sleeve & Poppet.
LPR & Front Block (You need to send your body to blast to be tapped so it can accept the set screw for your new front block)
And an alias style noid.

IOG EDIT:
You may install an Alias ram sleeve/poppet into your 2k2 body without any modification whatsoever. The advantage of installing an Alias ram sleeve is that you can then use the Alias poppet which is a better design than the 2k2 poppet, as it has has the integrated cupseal head. You no longer have to deal with maintenance and replacement of the white 2k2 style cupseal disc, as the Alias integrated cupseal will last much longer. However, you can achieve this same effect while still keeping your 2k2 ram sleeve, by installing an Empire poppet (compatible with 2k2 sleeves). See this article (http://www.intimidatorowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1048) for more information on the types of ram sleeves and poppets. Also if you choose to use an Alias sleeve you do not HAVE to use an Alias ram/ram cap. 2k2 ram and ram cap will fit. But then this is not true 2k5ing ;)

Information regarding frontblocks:

The pattern configuration on the side is different for an Alias and Empire. The shocktech front blocks are also smoother and cut differently as well. I picked up several Shocktech front blocks (alias style) with LPR for $20 two years ago when they were blowing them out. If you look at my Rippers you may see the difference. I'll see if I can take some pictures between the three later this week. (thanks Lopez17)

Where to buy all these items..?
Frame,Board,Trigger,Ram & Ram Sleeve,LPR, and Front block can all be purchased brand new from Critical Paintball & the wiring can be purchased from crankwalk. Although I wouldn't recommend buying all the parts brand new because it can end up being quite costly but rather buy used parts out of the BST section here on IOG.

Credits: IOG for helping me gather most of this information & Myself for writing this guide.

Please post with any corrections or perhaps something you want me to add.

Also feel free to post pictures of your 2k5'd intimidator.

Thanks,
Ollieleet

zlittell
08-10-2008, 12:57 PM
woot woot short and sweet thats how its done haha

battlechaser
08-10-2008, 02:16 PM
I'll post a guide to drilling/tapping your marker once I get my 2k5 parts.

Ollieleet
08-10-2008, 05:31 PM
I'll post a guide to drilling/tapping your marker once I get my 2k5 parts.

Awesome, I'll gladly add that to my guide. Thanks for the nice comments :)

Grimesb09
09-11-2008, 05:47 PM
can you just buy a 2k5 frame and have it bolt right up to your 2k2 body.

crankwalk
09-11-2008, 05:58 PM
Yes, it will bolt right up.

Grimesb09
09-11-2008, 06:16 PM
awsome thank you

SpyderMan723
10-14-2008, 09:32 PM
I'm thinking about 2k5ing a dragon body...hmmmm

:D

crankwalk
10-18-2008, 10:09 PM
Do it!

Ollieleet
10-19-2008, 12:01 AM
Thanks for the small edit CW (Or at least I assume it was you? :))

crankwalk
10-19-2008, 08:02 AM
Yes it was me, someone PM'ed me with 2k5'ing questions and I just added that information to your post for future reference :tup:

SoCmodder
02-24-2009, 04:01 AM
has anybody posted a guide on tapping the frame to accept the alias style front block?

GOD
02-24-2009, 04:05 AM
has anybody posted a guide on tapping the frame to accept the alias style front block?

I haven't seen one but it's beyond easy.
If some one sends me their gen2 body I'll not only tap it for them but make a guide.

lopez17
02-24-2009, 06:43 AM
has anybody posted a guide on tapping the frame to accept the alias style front block?

Not to my knowledge. Honestly, if it's a valuable body, I recommend having BLAST do the work.

SoCmodder
02-24-2009, 10:04 AM
ok, does it cost anything?

bronze
02-24-2009, 10:58 AM
ok, does it cost anything?

Yes. i dont know off the top of my head. give blast a call to see what they charge.

Slimpikins976
02-25-2009, 02:17 PM
I have that project species that I am trying to 2k5, and the (empire) front block I have, are punctured, so I plan on doing some serious modding, heheeh or correcting. I plan on practicing before I attempt to tap that beautiful body. So if anyone wants to post a how to I would love to read up a little before I attempt it. I have the JB Weld, and now just need the parts to come in. I will make sure to post lots of pic's when I do begin the project :D and maybe help others !!

SoCmodder
02-25-2009, 04:57 PM
will a 2k5 alias frame just slap right on?

Omega Ra
02-25-2009, 05:03 PM
yeah bolts right up, just need the 2k5 board and wiring

SoCmodder
02-25-2009, 05:34 PM
awesome! thanks :)

SoCmodder
03-02-2009, 04:38 PM
So, I know its not a true 2k5, but if I leave the noid, frontblock and lpr as 2k2, will everything still work ok?

lopez17
03-02-2009, 04:51 PM
It'll work fine. :tup:

SoCmodder
03-02-2009, 05:05 PM
sweet thanks!

SoCmodder
03-02-2009, 11:54 PM
sorry for all of the questions, but can you use a 2k2 board and eyes and everything in a 2k5 frame?

crankwalk
03-08-2009, 10:32 PM
^^ yes if it is a true 2k5 frame - if it is an Alias or Empire frame you cannot use a 2k2 board in it. If you have a 2k5 frame the 2k2 board will bolt right up.. you will not have any place to put the LCD however.. so you have to use a LED board.

Tucan9999
04-05-2009, 07:18 PM
When I do the Alias/2k5 Ram,sleeve and poppet do I switch over to Alias style bolts too?

bronze
04-05-2009, 07:25 PM
When I do the Alias/2k5 Ram,sleeve and poppet do I switch over to Alias style bolts too?

you can use the stock bolt. alias and 2k2 bolts are not the same. depdens on what body your using.

toolittletoolate
04-05-2009, 10:56 PM
When I do the Alias/2k5 Ram,sleeve and poppet do I switch over to Alias style bolts too?

Bolt has to do with body not ram ram sleeve combo. Alias bodies use Gen 3 bolts which are shorter, and 2k2 bodies have to use 2k2 bolt which are longer.

oldironmudder
04-05-2009, 11:52 PM
Stupid post on my part.....

rauleetoe
05-05-2009, 07:15 PM
^^ yes if it is a true 2k5 frame - if it is an Alias or Empire frame you cannot use a 2k2 board in it. If you have a 2k5 frame the 2k2 board will bolt right up.. you will not have any place to put the LCD however.. so you have to use a LED board.

i just got an empire frame and have all 2k2 internals and wiring. So in other words it will not work? I am not interested in getting alias eyes and 2k5 internals and completely '2k5ing it'. If that is the case ill just sell it once get it in the mail to someone on here.

battlechaser
05-07-2009, 10:00 PM
i just got an empire frame and have all 2k2 internals and wiring. So in other words it will not work? I am not interested in getting alias eyes and 2k5 internals and completely '2k5ing it'. If that is the case ill just sell it once get it in the mail to someone on here.

Your best bet in that case is either a Critical or Bob Long 2k5 frame (not the Alias or Empire), those are compatible with 2k2 electronics. but like crank mentioned you're limited to LED boards.

Ollieleet
05-07-2009, 10:30 PM
Pictures will be added soon of the progress on my project, sticky this :P.

lp04
06-06-2009, 03:48 PM
If 2k5ing a 2k2 gun, it is cheaper to go ahead and buy a 2k5 gun and take all the parts off of it than to buy individual parts.

I know people would say " thats wasting a good gun " But some of these classics such as the ironmen are well worth it to do this to.

Ollieleet
06-06-2009, 06:54 PM
In some cases buying an alias is a bit cheaper, yes.

toolittletoolate
06-06-2009, 07:37 PM
It is cheaper to buy an Alias use all those parts and then sell off the parts you don't use. Like what I did. Had my TS, bought an RL for $200, 2k5d my TS, which already had a frame, and sold the parts I didn't use. I ended up in the black on the RL.

eatafetus
03-09-2010, 03:38 PM
So let me get this straight. To truely 2k5 a gun, you must get a 2k5 front block. But it won't fit unless you modify the body first. However, you can just use your 2k2 front block, but then it won't be a "true" 2k5'd gun.

Ollieleet
03-09-2010, 04:03 PM
Exactly, if you don't want to tap your frontblock you can use an empire frontblock (and a few others but empire, IMO is the best 2k5 style "2k2" frontblock), but you can still just do the frame & board and it will be fine, considering those are the most noticeable upgrades.

toolittletoolate
03-09-2010, 04:28 PM
So let me get this straight. To truely 2k5 a gun, you must get a 2k5 front block. But it won't fit unless you modify the body first. However, you can just use your 2k2 front block, but then it won't be a "true" 2k5'd gun.

Correct!
Your gun will not be truly/fully 2k5'd unless you put an Alias or Empire frontblock on. It is VERY easy to get your body tapped for an Alias block, I've been offering this service to IOG members for a while now if they don't want to do it them selves. And once your body is tapped for an Alias block it will hold a 2k2 block with no issues at all.

bellicose
03-15-2010, 07:17 PM
Where on the body does it get tapped for an alias front block? What threads? Any one have a pic?

Ollieleet
03-15-2010, 07:21 PM
I can't remember the size of the grub screw, but it gets tapped exactly where your set screw is for your 2k2 block.

toolittletoolate
03-15-2010, 09:38 PM
I can't remember the size of the grub screw, but it gets tapped exactly where your set screw is for your 2k2 block.

It gets tapped where the screw that holds your 2k2 block goes.
Screw size needed is 5/16-24 x5/16