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lopez17
08-09-2007, 11:49 AM
There's a great deal of discussion that always occurs in regards to which lubricant's to use on your Intimidator.

The easy answer is to open the manual and read what the manuafacturer recommends and go from there. In this case that's Dow 55.

Why Dow 55?

Dow 55 is a jack of all trades lubricant. It's viscous enough not to clog up the marker or wear off the o-ring quickly but at the same time ensure a smooth coating on moving parts. Unlike it's counterpart Dow 33, it has a unique property. It's designed to swell o-rings

Why is it important to swell o-rings?

Many intimidators are made/drilled/extruded with tolerances that are a bit larger than needed. This enables the manufacturer to get the components into place easier without nicking or tearing o-rings (such as those on the ram sleeve). Using Dow 55 enables parts to be fit to the body as opposed to fitting the body to the parts. On the Gen4's this is critically important as you must have a tight seal on the rear ram o-ring in order to achieve the desired velocity. Using Dow 55 to swell that rear ram o-ring ensures that you have a consistent operation.

Can I use Dow 33?

Certainly! Dow 33 is a little bit thicker and tends to stick to moving parts a little bit better. Many people use a combination of Dow 33 and Dow 55 in their markers. On static o-rings that require tight seals (Ram Sleeve O-rings, Poppets, etc.) they'll use Dow 55. On moving parts they'll opt for Dow 33 due to it's propensity to lube, coat and stay in place.

Is Dow 33 known by any other names?

Yes, you may see it listed as Smart Parts Sl33k or Sleek lubricant or as Molykote 33.

Which do you recommend?

If you're in a pinch, I suggest using the manufacturer's recommendation of Dow 55.

What about Slick Honey, Lurker Lube, Hater Sauce, etc?

There are many other lubricants on the market, however Dow 33/55 are the lowest common denominator and will work well in all intimidators, in all weather conditions (hot, cold, rainy, dry). Some other types of lubrication will also work, but I generally only recommend using these lubricants when you have a full understanding of your marker and how it operates, otherwise you risk damaging your marker.

Slick Honey is a grease used for cyclists. It's thick but incredibly viscous and has a tendency to get into hoses and solenoids when it's warmed up. It's a horrible lubricant for the purposes of intimidators and in the short term it may work, but in the long term, it's a mess. I'd never ever recommend anyone who's a serious Intimidator owner actually use this in their marker. If you want to win the Tour de France with your Alias then use Slick Honey. :eek:

Hater Sauce is a decent lubricant that's very slick and somewhat more viscous than Dow. Unfortunately this tends to mean that when it's over applied, it gets into hoses and creates a mess. I'd recommend avoiding it.

Lurker Lube. This stuff is about the only alternative to Dow 55 that I recommend. It's as viscous as Dow, sticks as well and is a bit smoother when applied. It doesn't swell like Dow 55 but should reduce the friction of moving parts a bit better.

Generally when you're fully able to disassemble your marker into it's smallest components and troubleshoot issues, your able to use something other than Dow.

What's the black stuff in my ram sleeve, on my ram or bolt?

Dow breaks down over time and contains graphite. The black residue is a graphite component of the Dow and it harmless in your marker. If it builds up, use a Q-Tip to remove.

Where can I get Dow 33 or 55?

Some stores like Lowe's or Home Depot may carry it, industrial supply stores will have it as well. Paintball Kingdom and McMaster-Carr also have it.

Where can I get more information about Dow 33 or 55 lubricants?

I recommend going to Dow Corning's website for the MSDS on Dow 33 and 55.

How often should I lube my marker?

This will depend on how often you play but the manual gives good recommendations on frequencies of lubrication.

What about my bolt?

Your bolt o-rings can be a point of friction. If you need to lube the bolt (you don't necessarily need to), use Tri-Flow oil or Gold Cup on the o-rings only.

Spider
08-09-2007, 12:15 PM
Grainger's has Dow (Molykote) 33 and 55.

They like to have a company name for the bill, but you can pay at the counter and you just have to tell them it is 'taxable'. That way they don't try to put the tax against your 'company's' resale license, that your company may or may not have.

Slimpikins976
08-19-2007, 02:12 PM
Nice post lopez, I to use dow 55 and a little hater sause for stuff in my ram sleeve, but last time I was having my gun looked at two of the tech's at a local field were arguing over what type of lube to use in the ram sleeve.
One was saying tri-flow, but the other argued Dow 55 and said it will eliminate the hiss intimidators get some times when a small amount of air can escape from that tube.
I was always taught Dow 55 on all important and non moving O-rings ( reg's ect) then dow 33 on moving o-rings and parts, and only tri-flow on the bolt only if you have to.
I was also wondering if you have ever experienced that hiss he was talking about.... I never heard it but recently my older 05' alias did this with an after market Shocktech bolt, if it was depressed ever so slightly the hiss got worse. I ditched it and put in the stock bolt no more problems. Better fit I assumed. thanks again guys for the quick responses good information on these forums !!! :D

lopez17
08-19-2007, 10:29 PM
That light hiss is from the ram (not the ram sleeve) o-rings being old/worn/not lubed properly or consistently. I've only had it in one Intimidator and it was a quick fix.

Slimpikins976
08-20-2007, 03:56 AM
Ahh.. sweet, swapped an O-ring and moved on...... but really with the lubing suggestion for your ram and such in the ram tube would dow 55 be the best, or Tri-flow..... and if tri-flow I would assume you would have to lube it up alot more often, all things considered, correct?

jrmiller
08-20-2007, 04:15 AM
i have always used dow 33 on my thumper and have had great results.

lopez17
08-20-2007, 08:48 AM
For everything except the Gen4's, Dow 33 on your ram is fine. Triflow only goes on your bolt and in a LIGHT amount. Just enough to slicken up your o-rings. Even then I don't really see the use. On the Gen4's you need tight seals, so use Dow 55 everywhere. Frankly, I've just switched over to using 55 on everything on all my markers. It does the job quite well.

armyofeclipse
08-20-2007, 12:15 PM
I use DOW 33 and no problemos and its fairly cheap...

lopez17
08-20-2007, 02:40 PM
Using Dow 33 on a Gen4 is going to lead to problems long term as it doesn't swell the o-rings.

armyofeclipse
08-20-2007, 02:42 PM
I use it on my 2k2, will this lead to similar problems???

jrmiller
08-26-2007, 05:22 AM
I use it on my 2k2, will this lead to similar problems???

on the ram its cool but use it on everything else trust me. :tup:

Gee Tee
11-22-2007, 05:27 PM
Just love the smell of tri-flow... actually Dow 55 smells good too :D

Megatron
11-23-2007, 10:22 AM
Grainger's has Dow (Molykote) 33 and 55.

They like to have a company name for the bill, but you can pay at the counter and you just have to tell them it is 'taxable'. That way they don't try to put the tax against your 'company's' resale license, that your company may or may not have.

Grainger just offered me a job on tues and i accepted it.... i start on dec 10...
.....what a coincidence:cool: