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necrolyte
03-19-2009, 10:49 PM
I know I made a post the other day about triggers (http://www.intimidatorowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2837). And I've taken everyone's suggestions into consideration and I've come down to a few im going to make.

Playing with CAD today, I figured I'd show you guys progress. (cell phone pic beware!)

Here's a remodeled S-Class Gen5 Trigger cad'd up. I am hoping to run one to test out. I have bearings on the way in as well.

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v647/137/121/1039480003/n1039480003_367015_5941185.jpg

And before you post, the little nub at the bottom is a way to hold it from moving while being milled. It won't be there when the trigger is finished :)

Omega Ra
03-19-2009, 10:51 PM
nice. Can't wait to see one finished. Going to be made out of necroplastic?

necrolyte
03-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Not sure quite yet. I have a few ideas for material, but they will be a type of plastic. I'm leaning towards polycarbonate just for the 'clear' cool factor.

Omega Ra
03-19-2009, 11:01 PM
yeah I used black polycarbonate to make a custom rear-cocking knob for my VM68

DFSniper
03-19-2009, 11:03 PM
i saw that pic today and was wondering if i should show it to anyone :P

battlechaser
03-19-2009, 11:04 PM
Smoke polycarbonate, so you can still see thought it a little? :P

I guess you could also use lexan if you wanted other colours.

necrolyte
03-19-2009, 11:05 PM
Lexan is just a BRAND of Polycarbonate (GE Brand actually).

I could do smoke lexan...I was thinking clear though as it could be dyed to match your marker. and a clear trigger so people are like 'WTF WHERES YOUR TRIGGER@#!@'

Omega Ra
03-19-2009, 11:12 PM
LOL that would be pretty funny.

excessiveego
03-19-2009, 11:28 PM
Lexan is just a BRAND of Polycarbonate (GE Brand actually).

I could do smoke lexan...I was thinking clear though as it could be dyed to match your marker. and a clear trigger so people are like 'WTF WHERES YOUR TRIGGER@#!@'

very effective....... i saw this picture several times before i realised that one of them had a trigger
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/50/l_e4b0b87a0613475f8ffb8843aba5d440.jpg


close up
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/51/l_c3f838f83ec74330804ffc6ffb2e79b8.jpg

possumdrums
03-19-2009, 11:32 PM
.....

excessiveego
03-19-2009, 11:35 PM
nahh they dont
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/16/l_24b76420a45e4cbe84870d5cda35efeb.jpg
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/48/l_aaa82d30a6c1439dbdce0375fc4a26a4.jpg

Diablo3585
03-19-2009, 11:36 PM
What are those???

excessiveego
03-19-2009, 11:37 PM
What are those???

the new CCM J2L

necrolyte
03-19-2009, 11:38 PM
Those are hot.

Diablo3585
03-19-2009, 11:41 PM
They are. But the Atomic triggers look hot also ;)

excessiveego
03-19-2009, 11:45 PM
timmys and cockers are my favorite guns, im really looking forward to the new triggers, i cant afford technas for all the timmys i usually have, im surprisingly down to two now, but i was up to 5 or so for awhile

Depth
03-20-2009, 03:15 AM
necrolyte, what sort of adjustment are you going to put on the triggers and such? i went to get a critical last night and my card ballsed me around and i really want a good trigger, i might just hold out till uve got urs working :P

necrolyte
03-20-2009, 08:46 AM
Should have all the normal adjustments you are used to seeing.

Depth
03-20-2009, 09:35 AM
hope not, the stock vice only has post and activation :P

pre, post, activation, and return would be super

would you use a magnet return or spring??

excessiveego
03-20-2009, 10:32 AM
i find that return is pointless since i use springs, just clip the spring accordingly, but i do miss having pre-travel on most of the triggers lately.

necrolyte
03-20-2009, 11:16 AM
I find spring return useless. I run springless on all of my triggers, Gen 3 and Gen 5.

I will look into magnet returns, shouldn't be hard to do.

I believe the ndz triggers have the pre travel adjustment, am I right?

Depth
03-20-2009, 12:31 PM
by the looks of things so do critical. but there just a bit "run of the mill" so something a bit different and sexy would be nice ;)

ratinator
03-20-2009, 01:21 PM
make sure to make a talon/scythe trigger...they seem to be a fan favourite

toolittletoolate
03-20-2009, 02:48 PM
Yes Chris NDZ triggers have a pre travel set screw, and are the only ones I know of that have a pre travel set screw.

Stewey956
03-20-2009, 02:58 PM
What material are you planning on using?

Kowz_76
03-20-2009, 03:00 PM
Yeah, that's true about springs, but it's nice to have if you want to use magnets, which I think feel a little snappier and smoother.

Depth
03-20-2009, 03:07 PM
something rubbery and grippy might be interesting, i loved the trigger in my epiphany because it had little rubber bits where my fingers sat, that and it had zero side to side movement.

Stewey956
03-20-2009, 03:11 PM
Yeah, that's true about springs, but it's nice to have if you want to use magnets, which I think feel a little snappier and smoother.

Springs help actually, they can stop a lot of bounce. I prefer magnet though.

Spyder Java
03-20-2009, 03:29 PM
I would love to get a clear trigger. That would be sweet... As long as it removed side to side movement it would be an improvement over the trigger I have now.

Omega Ra
03-20-2009, 03:49 PM
Yeah basically if there is no side-to-side and the pull is smooth then :tup:

excessiveego
03-20-2009, 07:19 PM
Springs help actually, they can stop a lot of bounce. I prefer magnet though.

i prefer spring to repelling magnets, but i prefer the attracting magnets in eblades more than either

SlvrDragon50
03-20-2009, 08:08 PM
I'm suprised you can run springless in your Protege

My gun bounced like crazy with my techna

BigRed76
03-20-2009, 09:09 PM
i prefer spring to repelling magnets, but i prefer the attracting magnets in eblades more than either

Dual magnets ftmfw! ;)

DFSniper
03-20-2009, 09:21 PM
i love running my ripper without springs because its flat, but not too flat. i cant do that with the cp, ndz, or the "redesigned" alias trigger though.

possumdrums
03-20-2009, 09:51 PM
.....

Tabris17
03-21-2009, 09:55 PM
I'd like to see something that would fit a Gen 4 nicely. Standard Timmy triggers don't seem to fit properly since they need a back travel stop at the top of the trigger. And the NDZ I put on there that screw wasn't long enough. And my CP and stock RL trigger just bounced off the microswitch several times when I released because of the lack of screw.
I like the stock trigger but it has a bit too much wobble to it and I wish I could adjust it more so perhaps that's an idea for another trigger. Something with better bearings/snugger fit in the frame with awesome screws.

LWard
03-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Very nice look.

Any plans to make them for the other gens?

necrolyte
03-22-2009, 10:21 PM
Yep, completely plan to. That was just the first ones I grabbed to cad up (and I play with my protege more :) )

ratinator
03-23-2009, 02:18 AM
repelling magnets >>>>> springs

i have a spring in my techna right now, but i think im gonna work on getting some magnets..they just seem smoother

toolittletoolate
03-23-2009, 02:44 AM
The thing I like most about mags is the way I set them up they have no resistance until you get right to the switches clicking point. So as soon as you click it it repels to right before it clicks, I love it that way.

Tucan9999
03-23-2009, 02:56 AM
I'd definatly buy 1, But you might want to mill out a space for a spring/magnet.

LWard
03-23-2009, 11:45 AM
When it comes to mags I like the pull design over the push design. It seems that with the push unless the magnets are close my trigger doesn't return fast enough.

I do like magnets over springs though. I have to go through a lot of pens to find a spring I like for whichever marker I'm shooting.

fivestring
03-23-2009, 11:25 PM
Oh I could not disagree more on magnet orientation. Eblade (and worrblade) frames have the opposite poles (attracting) magnet returns and I cannot stand them. Unless you have an additional pretravel adjustment the initial trigger pull resistance is always governed by the force required to break the magnetic bond.

I would much rather have a similar pole magnetic return. This the magnets "push" apart and return the trigger to set position. By adjusting the distance between them you fine tune to additional force you "need" to return your trigger to set.

This set up increases the adjustability and reduces the need for extranious adjustment screws.

just my 2 cents though :D

SpyderMan723
03-24-2009, 12:54 PM
I forgot to mention that my personal favorite paintball trigger of all time has to be the FEP quest trigger. SO comfy.

LWard
03-24-2009, 01:57 PM
All in all Critical is my favorite trigger out there. Had one for my DM and Shocker. Looking forward to trying one out in a Timmy.

toolittletoolate
03-24-2009, 07:57 PM
I forgot to mention that my personal favorite paintball trigger of all time has to be the FEP quest trigger. SO comfy.

The stock Quest trigger is a Critical knock off, almost same exact milling.

Philyoh
03-24-2009, 09:32 PM
Oh I could not disagree more on magnet orientation. Eblade (and worrblade) frames have the opposite poles (attracting) magnet returns and I cannot stand them. Unless you have an additional pretravel adjustment the initial trigger pull resistance is always governed by the force required to break the magnetic bond.

I would much rather have a similar pole magnetic return. This the magnets "push" apart and return the trigger to set position. By adjusting the distance between them you fine tune to additional force you "need" to return your trigger to set.

This set up increases the adjustability and reduces the need for extranious adjustment screws.

just my 2 cents though :D

yeah necro I so agree on this power kodachi style with critical magnet style that would be awsome.

necrolyte
03-24-2009, 11:57 PM
Here's just a couple rough cad sketches I'm working on, maybe you'll notice designs.

Gen 3 Triggers - ECX / Rake / Scyth
http://www.necropb.com/images/triggers/Gen3_Render.jpg

Gen 5 Triggers - Saber / S-Class / Mini Scyth
http://www.necropb.com/images/triggers/Gen5_Render.jpg

Omega Ra
03-24-2009, 11:58 PM
liking gen 3 rake :)

Stewey956
03-25-2009, 12:00 AM
Where the **** are the Gen4s??????

Omega Ra
03-25-2009, 12:01 AM
No soup for you!

Stewey956
03-25-2009, 12:03 AM
Someone send Chris a genuine Gen4 trigger so he can get the proper sizing!!!!!

Six_Shooter
03-25-2009, 12:15 AM
Gen5 rake?

necrolyte
03-25-2009, 12:19 AM
I have it, just forgot to render it with the others, haha. I just noticed it :(

Especiialypsycho
03-25-2009, 01:36 AM
Ecx ftw

LWard
03-25-2009, 02:59 AM
Scythe, ECX and Rake in that order for Gen3.

SpyderMan723
03-25-2009, 04:12 PM
LOVE the gen5 sabre and mini scythe :tup: chris!

fivestring
03-26-2009, 02:37 PM
I would like to try out that Saber on my vice. It looks like it would be nice. Will be neat to see some of these once you have them made.

-Nick

SpyderMan723
03-26-2009, 03:32 PM
yea dude i would definitely buy a sabre or the mini scythe! :D im so excited

SlvrDragon50
03-26-2009, 04:13 PM
If you are trying to mimic the s-class, I think it has a bigger curve

SpyderMan723
03-26-2009, 04:17 PM
If you are trying to mimic the s-class, I think it has a bigger curve

dawtt

$hmidy
03-28-2009, 07:55 PM
i like the s class maybe have the bottom come out more but not quit like a scythe. but i have a gen 3:(

Gee Tee
03-29-2009, 08:05 AM
Got a Critical and CP rake trigger in each of my Empire's. I prefer spring return of the CP, to the magnet on the Critical but it's a close call. The magnet produces a fast, snappy action more like an on/off switch, where as spring resistance feels more progressive. The lack of pre travel adjustment on both does bug me a little, so it would be nice to try a trigger that has this feature.

I'll watch this thread with interest - nice one Chris :tup:

necrolyte
03-29-2009, 12:23 PM
I just picked up a CNC Mini Mill, so as soon as I get it in here and wired up, we should see some progress on triggers.

I would LOVE to do them on my CNCs at work, but we are so super busy it's hard for me to sneak stuff in.

SpyderMan723
03-29-2009, 12:50 PM
i just picked up a cnc mini mill, so as soon as i get it in here and wired up, we should see some progress on triggers.


:) :) :) !

Spyder Java
03-29-2009, 05:08 PM
I would love to see some old angel style triggers too... They might not have been the most comfortable but they looked cool. You know like the naked lady trigger or the lightning... I might even have them around here somewhere.

k_garretson23
04-13-2009, 01:04 PM
Will these be availible for gen3 timmies? Im desperatly looking for a gen 3 s-class style trigger.

necrolyte
04-13-2009, 06:33 PM
Yep, I'm working on all styles for Gen3/4/5 :)


What I MAY end up doing is just opening it up for custom orders. The 'head' or top of the trigger doesnt change, and I as long as I keep that profile the same, the trigger profile itself can be whatever anyone wants it to be. This would keep me from running a huge ton of the them at the time (since I have my own cnc now) I can pretty much run one when I get an order for it. This will keep overhead down as well, and may make them a tad bit cheaper, while at the same time, giving you guys a completely customized trigger for your marker.

Stewey956
04-13-2009, 06:58 PM
Damn this is great.

Zephyr
04-13-2009, 07:04 PM
Great idea, got an idea of cost if all triggers are custom?

necrolyte
04-13-2009, 07:08 PM
I'm still doing some cost workups for different methods of doing them. Normal triggers are 0.270-0.280" thick, while if I do them out of 1/4" polycarbonate like I want to use, it actually measures 0.230". I don't know until I cut a couple whether this will make a huge difference as far as feel of the trigger. The CP trigger I have measures .240" so I dont think that it'll make that much difference.

As far as cost goes, with all of the hardware being included it'll be hard to say. Rough guess, in the $40 range I am hoping.

Spyder Java
04-23-2009, 03:45 PM
Just checking in since it has been over a week since you posted this... Not like I could afford anything right now. Just wondering if you got any done, if so I would like to see some pictures of them on a gun...

necrolyte
04-25-2009, 10:17 AM
Don't have any finished up yet. Been crazy at work :(

Spyder Java
04-28-2009, 06:29 PM
I know what you mean.

necrolyte
04-28-2009, 10:42 PM
I tried SO hard to sneak some in at work today...lol. Every time I started to try to work on it, I got called to do another job, and the rest of my week is shot.

I havent even had time to get my home cnc set up!

bronze
04-30-2009, 10:10 PM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/bronzealero/paintball/IMG00340.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n167/bronzealero/paintball/IMG00341.jpg

:D

Six_Shooter
04-30-2009, 10:15 PM
Looks a bit thin at that notch. :o

necrolyte
04-30-2009, 11:28 PM
It is really thin, and I didnt know that until I had the trigger profile milled. That's what prototypes are for :D

The next one I'll do a little bit different, but amazingly, once the spring is installed in the spring location, it really tightens it up. I have a couple little problem points with radii on the part, but all that can be overcome with a change in the profile just a tad. For a first attempt I am very happy with it!

I installed it in the protege, and its VERY snappy, I like it a LOT. I dont so much like the profile I cut, I like more of a stick trigger, but I like how snappy it is. Imma try to get more done now that I have the method to hold them built.

Stewey956
04-30-2009, 11:49 PM
Hey, its a step in the right direction.

GOD
05-01-2009, 12:05 AM
Garbage...
:dodgy:?

battlechaser
05-01-2009, 12:10 AM
Garbage...
:dodgy:?

Constructive criticism? :dodgy:?

Lurker27
05-04-2009, 05:40 AM
Looks good, Necro. PC is light and stiff, although I find the transparent look freaks people out. They used to make some for spyders back in the day, IMO they look better in person.

necrolyte
05-04-2009, 08:05 AM
Thanks Lurker.

fivestring
05-04-2009, 08:41 AM
Cool necro. Glad to see the progress!

necrolyte
05-04-2009, 08:43 AM
I'm hoping to get to play with more styles this coming week now that I have the profile milling figured out. That, and I can take care of the other little nit-pickey problems with em.

I think I am going to plan to run dual bearings in it, to take up some side/side play.

necrolyte
05-04-2009, 06:46 PM
Heres a tad better pic of two prototypes I've got rolling:

http://www.necropb.com/necrolyte/triggers.jpg

Six_Shooter
05-04-2009, 07:13 PM
Now I see why it's cut like it is.

SlvrDragon50
05-04-2009, 07:55 PM
x.x

Lemme test a stick trigger for you :D

Diablo3585
05-04-2009, 10:01 PM
x.x

Lemme test a stick trigger for you :D

I'll test a Gen 5 scythe trigger

excessiveego
05-04-2009, 10:24 PM
really liking the 2nd style, looking forward to one for a gen2/3 timmy

necrolyte
05-04-2009, 10:26 PM
Gen3's will come :)

I'm just playing around with prototyping and making sure I can hold everything while milling. Its a learning experience for me.

Once my home cnc is set up I'll be much happier.

excessiveego
05-04-2009, 10:37 PM
the clear would look like sex on my silver ripper 2.5 :D

DFSniper
05-04-2009, 10:57 PM
i already requested some smoke triggers :D

Six_Shooter
05-04-2009, 11:07 PM
i already requested some smoke triggers :D

Yeah I prefer something other than clear, myself.

necrolyte
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
Nice thing about them being polycarbonate is the ability to dye them.

excessiveego
05-04-2009, 11:13 PM
Nice thing about them being polycarbonate is the ability to dye them.

BRILLIANT


in that case....... ill need 4 as soon as you get them done for gen2/3's

that will probably be packaged with 4 rams...... what other cool **** can you make for me to buy? :P

necrolyte
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
Another mod for these triggers i've been debating on messing with is an LED mod, so that it would/could light the trigger up :)

More so for coolness factor. I can also etch these.


These triggers will probably be custom made to order, I don't plan on stocking these, so these can be made to your exact specs.

EDIT:

Also for those pm'ing me wanting to test triggers. Testing on these will be done somewhat differently. I am going to have to ask for money to cover at least the bearings on these, they are not cheap and cost me $5/ea. Two are in each trigger (so far I like it better). The testers cost may be $12-15 or so once I'm ready to release some prototypes FOR testing. I have to do this because I just cannot afford bearings on these, there will be a lot of money tied up in them.

Thanks.

Stewey956
05-04-2009, 11:27 PM
Ooh, they can be dyed...I wanna see what it look like dyes.

Six_Shooter
05-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Yeah I was already thinking about an LED mod for the trigger Chris. ;)

I think I'd just prefer a solid colour, like black or red, but clear for now is fine too. The more humped design is what I would be after. :D

I'm really wanting a bearing trigger too, custome made to order is definatly better than just buying an off the shelf trigger. :D

Mora
05-05-2009, 10:44 AM
dagger trigger!!!

fivestring
05-06-2009, 09:18 AM
Lookin' good Necro! I too would like to see how they look dyed.

-nick

Daigz525
05-12-2009, 06:36 PM
What's the status of these guys? and when do I need to paypal you $ to test?

Keep me updated!!!

necrolyte
05-12-2009, 06:43 PM
I got two prototypes developed. Just brought the template/cad files home to play with now, and since the home cnc is running, I hope to get more cut here shortly :)

I just put in my order for enough parts to build 25 of these triggers, sooooooooo, soon!

Mora
05-13-2009, 10:27 AM
I'm excited

necrolyte
05-21-2009, 01:16 AM
Here's a trigger from specs that TLTL gave me, I'll be cutting it in the next couple of days. This is a Marq trigger style.

http://www.necropb.com/cnc/tltl_marq.jpg

jmtadena
05-21-2009, 06:42 AM
ooo looks good.

Mora
05-21-2009, 04:05 PM
nice, it'd be cool for me if it were angled out a little more though, but it looks real sick at thins point in time.

toolittletoolate
05-21-2009, 04:27 PM
If it were kicked out more it be basically a Power KODACHI trigger.

SpyderMan723
05-21-2009, 04:48 PM
it looks alot like a kodachi as it is now

Stewey956
05-21-2009, 06:32 PM
I thought that too.

SlvrDragon50
05-21-2009, 08:54 PM
Ah.. I'll get a picture of my Techna razor up soon.. I promise..

I think the Techna Razor is a great design although the slope needs to be adjusted I think.. or maybe thats just for me

Mora
05-21-2009, 09:07 PM
it would resemble a kodachi, but those triggers are so sweet, no lie

Stewey956
05-21-2009, 09:27 PM
You've used 1?

necrolyte
05-21-2009, 10:28 PM
My plan is to draw em up the way the customer wants em. That way they are TRUELY a one of one trigger. It's your design, how you want it. Almost like Burger King :)

If it looks close to another trigger, I cannot help it, I'm just doing what the customer wants.

If these prototypes work out, it'll be game on!

Mora
05-22-2009, 02:20 PM
oh yea necro, i like your perspective sir, and burger king is awesome

Six_Shooter
05-25-2009, 11:04 PM
Just a couple pictures of my Necrotrigger.

http://domestic.3400z24.com/sixshooter/Misc/Paint%20Ball/Protege%202/Necrotrigger%20Atomic.jpg

http://domestic.3400z24.com/sixshooter/Misc/Paint%20Ball/Protege%202/Necrotrigger%20Atomic%2002.jpg

necrolyte
05-25-2009, 11:10 PM
Awesome shots!

ghettogunner
05-26-2009, 02:36 PM
looking forward to gen3/4 availability!

Stewey956
05-26-2009, 02:55 PM
Looks hot, wish they extended as far down as possible though.

SlvrDragon50
05-26-2009, 04:21 PM
Agreed. You should make it drop as low as possible

Do you have a techna to compare the trigger to?

necrolyte
05-26-2009, 05:41 PM
You'd know if I had a techna :)

I can make the triggers lower. That's just how i perfered mine.

Stewey956
05-26-2009, 05:50 PM
When do these bad boys go up for sale? I still need one for my Timmy.

necrolyte
05-26-2009, 05:57 PM
Doing prototypes now, hit me up on AIM.

Stewey956
05-26-2009, 06:02 PM
Will do.

necrolyte
05-27-2009, 09:05 PM
Here's a quick shot of a couple of S-Class style triggers and a custom trigger for toolittletoolate. This is before drilling/tapping the adjustment holes, and before polishing.

They have been deburred and the bearings pressed in.

http://www.necropb.com/cnc/triggers1.jpg

Daigz525
05-27-2009, 10:30 PM
Looking good!!!!!!

Just sent you my address too

SlvrDragon50
05-28-2009, 12:15 AM
Shouldn't you dye the triggers before pressing the bearings in?

toolittletoolate
05-28-2009, 12:32 AM
Shouldn't you dye the triggers before pressing the bearings in?

That was my 1st question as well. But I think it all varies on the people buying them, some may want clear, special color, or a fade. Also the bearings are sealed from what Necro and me have discussed. I think it would be best to leave the dyeing up to the customer, and perhaps have a special part to say that they want to dye them and if they are worried about the bearings I'm sure he can include them but not press fit them in. He says it doesn't take much force to fit em.

SlvrDragon50
05-28-2009, 12:40 AM
Oh, I can't tell if they're sealed bearings or not from those pictures.

My dying always failed so I'd like it if Necro dyed it :D

toolittletoolate
05-28-2009, 12:58 AM
Oh, I can't tell if they're sealed bearings or not from those pictures.

My dying always failed so I'd like it if Necro dyed it :D

lol. The only thing I'm concerned with is the tapped holes how they will dye compared to the rest of the trigger.

necrolyte
05-28-2009, 08:17 AM
The bearings are stainless and sealed. Water/dye should not bother them.

necrolyte
05-29-2009, 09:45 PM
Okay, so.....

Experimenting with RIT dye since I know you all want colored triggers... :)

I went tonight and picked some up, this color was 'Kelly Green'..and I was hoping it to be close to lime.

Here's one of the s-class triggers I cut a couple days ago. It messed up in milling, but I'll probably personally use it to try it out. I had to give it a dye bath :)

I boiled water, put in about 3 scoops of RIT dye (in about a cup and a half of water), boiled it up again, then turned it on about half heat and dunked the trigger. I left it for probably 6-8 minutes, then rinsed it quick under cold water. I figured this was the best way to do it, to close the pores quickly...and hey, whatya know.

Soon as I opened the green dye, i knew it was going to be the wrong shade, but what the heck right?

http://www.necropb.com/necrolyte/green_trigger.jpg

Ajak
05-29-2009, 10:15 PM
looks good

DFSniper
05-29-2009, 10:38 PM
thats hot.

God4Hire
05-29-2009, 11:11 PM
Use the liquid version of rit.

toolittletoolate
05-31-2009, 04:06 AM
So it dyed pretty much as I would've predicted. Hopefully Necro will get my trigger out to me soon so I can put it through its paces.:D

necrolyte
05-31-2009, 12:22 PM
http://www.necropb.com/necrolyte/green_vice.jpg

Just to give you guys an idea. I took the stock trigger off before I even played with it and put the dyed one on. It is SUPER smooth, there is NO side to side play with the dual bearings. It was really a tight fight with the bearings, a lot better tolerances than the protege was.

I also removed the spring. Its a TON better without the spring. All I'm using for the return is the microswitch, and its very snappy.

TLTL: Your trigger will go out as soon as I play with dying it :)

Six_Shooter
05-31-2009, 12:40 PM
I've been contemplating just outright removing the spring in mine. I was dry firing it last night and seemed to be able to keep the cycle more consistant. (actually I was half cycling dwell set at 4ms.) The trigger feels a lot lighter than the stock trigger and so I thought that the microswitch might be enough to return it. I'm having a hell of a time trying to find little magnets. :(

necrolyte
05-31-2009, 12:47 PM
Pop the spring out. It makes a huge difference.

SlvrDragon50
05-31-2009, 02:03 PM
o.O Your gun doesnt bounce without the spring?

necrolyte
05-31-2009, 02:09 PM
No sir, none.

fivestring
05-31-2009, 04:26 PM
Nice green trigger there. Where did you get the Vice??

toolittletoolate
05-31-2009, 04:55 PM
o.O Your gun doesnt bounce without the spring?

I took the spring off my Marq trigger, only gets bouncy when you rly start walking it fast. But a slow walk and I can't detect much bounce at all.(sounds like an advertisement for a bra)

Tucan9999
05-31-2009, 05:31 PM
Can we buy the triggers yet?

Six_Shooter
05-31-2009, 11:02 PM
I used my new to me Protege, with the NecroPB trigger tonight in practice.

After the first couple games I removed the spring, and had much nicer pull, without any noticable bounce.

necrolyte
05-31-2009, 11:08 PM
Can we buy the triggers yet?


I'm waiting on Gen3 bearings and more Gen5 bearings to come in.

PM me and I'll start working on you a design.

Daigz525
06-01-2009, 04:26 PM
Wait a minute?! Where is my trigger?!? :):D

necrolyte
06-03-2009, 07:58 PM
Here's TLTL's after tapping, bearings, and dye.

http://www.necropb.com/necrolyte/tltl_blackfade.jpg

I dont think I am going to offer dying for people. It'll be easier for you guys to dye them if you want, it'd be harder for me to match colors :)

oldironmudder
06-03-2009, 08:30 PM
Looking good!!!!!!!!

Daigz525
06-03-2009, 09:44 PM
I wouldn't bother dying, maybe just include some instructions on how to do it if people want.

And where is my clear trigger?!? ;)

necrolyte
06-03-2009, 10:23 PM
Yours is coming, I gotta drill and tap it and it'll be on its waaaaay.

And yep, plan to do a write up on how to dye them, they are SUPER easy.

Daigz525
06-03-2009, 10:44 PM
Right on, and you know that I'm just teasing about the trigger! I trust ya!!

necrolyte
06-03-2009, 11:19 PM
:D Just for that im going to sabotage yours somehow...dun dun dun!

Hurry up and get up here.

toolittletoolate
06-09-2009, 04:50 PM
Got my trigger in the mail yesterday. Nice and snappy. Did have some issues, A, the back stop set screw was screwing itself back into the trigger upon hitting the frame. B, while it fit better than stock on the trigger mounting screw it being narrow enough I could move it side to side, I'm not talking about trigger slop I'm talking about being able to move the trigger left and right on the screw.
Both issues I resolved and the trigger works great. Will get some pics later maybe.

xxflipboi21xx
06-09-2009, 08:25 PM
how much is necrolyte selling his triggers?

toolittletoolate
06-09-2009, 08:30 PM
I'm not sure. You'd have to PM Necro about it. He's doing custom trigger, so send him a design you like and he'll cut it. That's what I did.

cheechhydros
06-09-2009, 09:08 PM
Hope he can make me one for my 2k5 species!!!

necrolyte
06-09-2009, 10:08 PM
how much is necrolyte selling his triggers?

I am trying to stay in the $30-40 range depending on the trigger. These are all custom one of a kind triggers with dual bearings and adjustment screws, and are made from polycarbonate (which is dyable).

Hope he can make me one for my 2k5 species!!!

I am working on a design for you, trying to come up with something. I have Gen3 bearings in now and am hoping to get some test triggers cut soon. There just hasnt been enough time in the day lately :)

xxflipboi21xx
06-10-2009, 12:32 AM
I am trying to stay in the $30-40 range depending on the trigger. These are all custom one of a kind triggers with dual bearings and adjustment screws, and are made from polycarbonate (which is dyable).



ohh i see is there anyway you can make the stock dragon timmy trigger?

necrolyte
06-10-2009, 08:51 AM
Yep, I can try to get one worked up. If anyone had a spare trigger of what they wanted me to reproduce it would be lots easier to cad up and go. :)

Lurker27
06-10-2009, 10:12 AM
Didn't realize these are custom - are you taking referrals for any other guns? I know of a few guys who might be interested that I'd be happy to send your way. Sample pieces can be provided, but I understand if this is too much of a hassle to CAD up individually each time.

Very nice work!

oldironmudder
06-10-2009, 10:46 AM
Necro, would you accept a trigger already drawn in cad? If so, what format?

I can get DWG & DXF with the program I use but if I need to I can reinstall MasterCam9 & get alot more choices.

xxflipboi21xx
06-10-2009, 12:18 PM
Yep, I can try to get one worked up. If anyone had a spare trigger of what they wanted me to reproduce it would be lots easier to cad up and go. :)


I havent found anyone who has it or even selling it on the nation so yeah :/

necrolyte
06-10-2009, 05:41 PM
Didn't realize these are custom - are you taking referrals for any other guns? I know of a few guys who might be interested that I'd be happy to send your way. Sample pieces can be provided, but I understand if this is too much of a hassle to CAD up individually each time.

Very nice work!

Thanks Lurker, send em my way if you want. I havent ventured into other markers yet just because I know the Bob long line best. With other triggers I'd need to prototype and test out, but once the head of the trigger is modeled, I can change the trigger profile itself to anything.

Necro, would you accept a trigger already drawn in cad? If so, what format?

I can get DWG & DXF with the program I use but if I need to I can reinstall MasterCam9 & get alot more choices.

Yep! I can take any format. IGES normally works best, but I can use DWG and DXF as well. I'd like a top view, to scale, in 2D geometry. That works best for me!

I havent found anyone who has it or even selling it on the nation so yeah :/

I've had a couple of dragon triggers before, I'll see if I can come across one and get something made up.

Daigz525
06-10-2009, 06:02 PM
More importantly... where is my Gen 5 prototype ram and trigger?!?!:D

necrolyte
06-10-2009, 06:12 PM
Blah blah blah, yada yada yada...arent you coming up in a couple weeks anyway? :D

SlvrDragon50
06-10-2009, 09:19 PM
Where my trigger and ram :D

Diablo3585
06-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Where is my k... Oh wait.




I'm not buying anything :(

Daigz525
06-11-2009, 01:54 AM
Blah blah blah, yada yada yada...arent you coming up in a couple weeks anyway? :D

yep I think that I'll be up in 3 weeks

necrolyte
06-15-2009, 11:13 PM
Just a few cad's I've worked up. These are all Gen1-4 trigger styles. Hope to have them cut soon.

Saber/Dragon style
http://www.necropb.com/images/triggers/ollie_saber.jpg

Katana
http://www.necropb.com/images/triggers/bronze_katana.jpg

Scyth
http://www.necropb.com/images/triggers/scyth2.jpg

necrolyte
06-25-2009, 02:44 AM
And here is actual triggers of the above renderings.

http://www.necropb.com/necrolyte/gen3_triggers.jpg

SpyderMan723
06-25-2009, 02:58 AM
damn girl

bronze
06-25-2009, 09:27 AM
oh my :D looks like i gotta talk to you soon about payment.

necrolyte
06-27-2009, 02:02 PM
Here's a rendering of Polo's single finger trigger design.

http://www.necropb.com/images/triggers/polo_mythic.jpg

fivestring
06-27-2009, 02:22 PM
Wow, I'm liking the single trigger .

necrolyte
06-27-2009, 03:18 PM
Wow, I'm liking the single trigger .


You may like this one better.

http://www.necropb.com/images/triggers/fivestring.jpg


Let me know if that's kinna the idea you were thinking :)

fivestring
06-28-2009, 09:51 PM
Oooo me likey!!

That is great Chris. I seriously am can't wait. That is exactly what I was invisioning!!!. I think I'll dye it black.

Thanks man,
Nick

69RocketGC
07-08-2009, 09:02 AM
I do not see options to purchase one of these on ur website? Are they ready?

SlvrDragon50
07-08-2009, 02:41 PM
Custom made by you.

Send Chris and Email or PM.

69RocketGC
07-09-2009, 04:25 PM
I do not have the time to design one from scratch or take my critical out. I would just like to purchase a copy of the Scyth trigger pictured above in black if at all possible.

fivestring
07-09-2009, 06:55 PM
PM Necrolyte. As I understand it he is making them on a "case-by-case" basis. I don't want to speak for him but if he already has the design you want I bet he'd cut you one.

Best thing to do is shoot him a pm.