So I received a Protege today... [Archive]

crankwalk

10-28-2007, 02:23 AM

http://67.94.107.89/~edgar/pix/pb/crank-protege.jpg

The wait is finally over.. came in earlier today fresh off the plane from World Cup courtesy of lopez17, and I installed a POWER "Kodachi" roller trigger courtesy of the incubus. Just dry firing feels really nice, especially with the POWER trigger - can't wait to see what this thing does when I can shoot some paint through it!

Hopefully I'll have some internal pics and a write-up soon (but probably not Sunday.. Football)

One other thing.. man is this thing light.

:cheers:

big_daddy_d

10-28-2007, 05:08 AM

looks nice, i'm still trying to get over the grip frame being connected to the LPR and HPR reg... Looks good though!

***edit*** marq grips on it?

Alias2007

10-28-2007, 09:00 AM

Nice CW :eek: Can't wait to read your review, and see the inside of this thing.

Gee Tee

10-28-2007, 09:39 AM

So how much - and how easy to get them shipped to the UK? ;)

Critical

10-28-2007, 09:46 AM

I hate you :mad:

I love you :D

Looks a lot nicer than previous pictures have suggested.

Megatron

10-28-2007, 01:34 PM

cant go wromg with black:tup::tup:

jrmiller

10-28-2007, 03:12 PM

paris hilton says it best "thats hot" :P

crankwalk

10-28-2007, 03:36 PM

Thanks guys! Yeah its nice and the trigger is killer.

big_daddy_d: Yeah it looks like Marq grips on it.. says Marq'd for Death

Alias2007: internal pictures and more info within the next few days - football on now :)

Gee Tee: any licensed US dealer should be able to ship to the UK for you, or you may call BLAST to find out. It was $599, cup price MSRP from the BLAST tent. I don't know if it will be less (People saying $550 from dealers)

Critical: :D

Megatron: Choice was between black, blue, silver and red -- yeah black was the best choice for me, looks like all they have is gloss colors too

jrmiller: haha! paris hilton knows her markers

lopez17

10-28-2007, 04:22 PM

Dealer price will be $550 but Bob didn't want to undercut his dealers so he had it at $599 for WC. The marker looks nice with the trigger installed (and incidentally for everyone reading at home, Incubus's Power line of triggers are incredibly smooth in this gripframe/marker).

World Cup was such a great time. I shot the Protege on Thursday and Friday and it's an amazing marker. It's got a smooth, very short stroke to it and the design work is amazing. The vice is going to be sweet too but unlike previous reports will only come with 2 eyes. 4 eyes are an aftermarket upgrade. It will have the Tadao (which I saw in Terry and Will's markers...and is also quite sweet). The Protege was incredibly fast and consistent. I swear every person shooting it was giggling like a kid at christmas.

Glad you like it buddy! I was surprised I didn't get any crap from TSA about bringing markers back from Orlando...let alone 100 pods. :P

crankwalk

10-28-2007, 05:16 PM

WOW 100 pods! :D - yeah glad they didn't give you any crap either :cheers:

vikingshadow

10-28-2007, 06:36 PM

I agree - looks MUCH nicer than previously seen. Can't wait to see the Vice!

lopez17

10-28-2007, 07:20 PM

WOW 100 pods! :D - yeah glad they didn't give you any crap either :cheers:

I thought I showed that too you yesterday. That was the big cardboard box in my backseat, taking up the entire backseat. :eek:

At the counter the lady said what's in here, I said 100 paintball pods...after about 5 minutes of explaining what a pod is and how it's used, she got the drift. ;) I explained that I had paintball markers in my luggage and she tagged it and let them know as they ran it through the machine. The cool thing was that I knew the pods were roughly 30 lbs, so I had 20 more otherwise my butt was paying for having overweight luggage. My suitcase came in at 19.5lbs. :cheers: The ticket people were cracking up. I recommend Airtran to any ballers that need to fly, they made it very easy.

IRStookmySpyder

10-28-2007, 07:24 PM

It looks good, do you have an exact weight yet?

lopez17- why did you buy 100 pods?

lopez17

10-28-2007, 08:39 PM

I bought 100 pods for the folks back here in VA. I used to do large bulk orders with Kapp before they went under, but that was a few years ago. Most of us have pods that are breaking, wearing out, etc. and we each like to keep about 30 good ones for when friends come out, to have spares, etc.

I play regularly with a group of about 25 regulars. In that group we had a bunch of people in need of spares or just wanting to add on and rather than pay retail, I just got them cheap at Cup. Of those 100 pods, I've been paid for 35 and have another 55 allocated. That leaves 10 left. I got home 24 hours ago. I also bought a few pod bags and other similar things that went ridiculously fast.

IRStookmySpyder

10-28-2007, 09:58 PM

lopez17- Oh, OK now I get it. I thought that you bought all of them for yourself, I was like why do you need that many. That is a good idea that I wish my last team would have done instead of each of us buying our own but only like a couple at a time we should have just saved up and split the cash and amount of pods.

lopez17

10-28-2007, 10:04 PM

It's been a very convenient exercise. I'm a popular guy with on my email tonight as people are clamoring for pods and extra gear.

IRStookmySpyder

10-28-2007, 10:14 PM

lopez17- Well it is good to hear that you can help other people out like that.

lopez17

10-28-2007, 10:16 PM

That's not even the half of it. I have several hundred dollars in gear in my basement going to a couple of people. One of my co-workers had me pick up some pants, a jersey, pack and other random stuff for him...he's making out like a bandit. The nice thing about cup is the discounts on last year's gear. We got an E-Tek jersey for $20. They had JT Cleats for $15. Redz pants for $20, one of my friends got some JT pants for $25. Cup is just insane. I was telling Crankwalk yesterday that he needs to come down to Florida with us for Cup next year.

IRStookmySpyder

10-28-2007, 10:19 PM

lopez17- Wow, do they have like last years models guns there for cheap too?

lopez17

10-28-2007, 10:24 PM

I honestly wasn't paying attention since I wasn't really looking. I do know that First Call paintball did have some for sale and Bob Long had some Closers and other Marqs on sale but most of the tents are pushing the new stuff.

IRStookmySpyder

10-28-2007, 10:26 PM

Oh, OK. I was going to say maybe I have a shot at getting a good gun next year, lol.

lopez17

10-28-2007, 10:43 PM

One thing that you can do that we didn't try is that you can ask the vendors if they have old product in the back.

the incubus

10-29-2007, 01:50 AM

Heck yeah! First Call had NIB Karni's for $399.00

I know Cockers are yesterday's news but man, that's just insane. E-Blade Frames alone are still $200 and the Kaner Kits are $125 so do the math and see how crazy that price is. GEN4 Timmys I think were $499 or so, can't remember exactly. Wraiths (Not a high-end Marker) were selling for $40.00 and anyone who needs a nice backup or ANY Backup for that matter... That's not a bad way to go.

They had a bunch more for crazy prices as well but I can't remember them all.

First Call also had a crazy raffle 3 times per day and we were there (Lopez, McGyver & Myself) and Lopez won a nice NXe Skull 3+2 pack and missed out on a few other things and McGyver didn't wanna get Tazered to win a FREE Mini. What a girl! LOL :P

Good times with great new (certainly, now, life-long) friends!
One of the best Cups that I can remember.

IRStookmySpyder

10-29-2007, 07:33 AM

lopez17- I wish I could go down to one, but I don't have anyone else to go with seeing that I'm only turning 16 next year.

the incubus- Those are some good deals. If you bought one of those karni's and sold it for parts you could easily make your money back and profit.

lopez17

10-29-2007, 09:06 AM

Good call with the Karni's, I had forgotten about them. The JT cleats were a steal too, if only I needed or could wear the hi-top style. I want to say that BLAST had the Gen4's for $450 but $499 could be right. I can't remember, I was too in awe of the Marq's and Protege's.

Megatron

10-29-2007, 11:27 AM

Get tazered and win a free mini? Some shocking deals going on at the cup!!!

IRStookmySpyder

10-29-2007, 06:10 PM

I don't think that I would have done the get tazered for a Mini either. Minis are nice guns, but I don't think I would have liked the tazering very much.

Critical

10-29-2007, 06:23 PM

I'd do it. Of course, I'll do just about anything.

big_daddy_d

10-29-2007, 06:29 PM

getting tazered isn't half that bad, it's just the initial shock. Still can't believe a company would do that though...

IRStookmySpyder

10-29-2007, 07:08 PM

They probably wanted to see how bad people wanted there gun.

big_daddy_d

10-29-2007, 07:26 PM

still pretty bizarre, I got tazered once with dog tags on and it burnt the crap out of my chest...

lopez17

10-29-2007, 08:04 PM

Or they were joking...no one really took them up on it.

IRStookmySpyder

10-29-2007, 08:23 PM

lol, I am pretty sure they were joking, because couldn't you like really hurt someone with the tazers? Maybe if you would have told them you will take them up on it they would have just given it to you. Or maybe they would just laugh and give you a shirt or something, lol.

big_daddy_d

10-29-2007, 09:38 PM

who knows, cause i know folks with pacemakers and stuff can really get f'ed up being tazered like that. They would have to have everyone participating sign releases stating that if they fell to the ground and hit their head or something they wouldn't sue.

IRStookmySpyder

10-29-2007, 10:30 PM

Ya, so I guess they could do it, but I honestly think it was just to see how much fans really wanted their gun, or just to see how stupid the people really are.

big_daddy_d

10-29-2007, 10:41 PM

lol true

IRStookmySpyder

10-29-2007, 10:46 PM

Ya, because they are minis which don't cost that much to buy brand new to begin with and then people are going to go and let the people tazer them just for one of them, maybe for a couple of them, but just for one I don't think it is worth doing.

big_daddy_d

10-29-2007, 11:18 PM

-i'd do it though if I was there lol.

lopez17

10-29-2007, 11:39 PM

Except for the fact that they did have a hand held tazer there that they snapped on for a second or two...so while it may have been a joke, it was a realistic one. :)

big_daddy_d

10-30-2007, 01:27 AM

i bought one back a couple of years ago for my wife, them things pack a punch... we know from experience get some dumb military guys together and add beer and look what happens someone ends up zapped. lol

IRStookmySpyder

10-30-2007, 07:29 AM

big_daddy_d- lol. My brother had one a couple of years ago, but I think he sold it or something

lopez17- Ya, it would just add to the joke and make it seem more realistic. Can't you adjust how much shock the person will get on those?

jrmiller

10-30-2007, 12:46 PM

soooooooo........ btw cankwalk how does the new gun shoot if i may ask :P

crankwalk

10-30-2007, 04:30 PM

unfortunately I won't get a chance to try it until this Sunday when I go play. I have no air, or paint :D

IRStookmySpyder

10-30-2007, 05:14 PM

Can't wait to hear your review of it crankwalk.

Megatron

10-30-2007, 05:23 PM

cant wait for the review either.....just for the record i would definately get tazered for a free mini....but then again i'd do almost anything for money and/or prizes....i'm such a whore:(

lp04

10-30-2007, 05:26 PM

Slimpikins976

10-30-2007, 05:35 PM

IRStookmySpyder

10-30-2007, 06:51 PM

Megatron- lol just because you will do anything for money/prizes doesn't make you a whore, just willing to do crazy things for something that isn't worth it.

Slimpikins976- Can't wait to hear your review either. Sounds like everyone that went had a good time down there.

KeenDean

10-30-2007, 07:27 PM

Hay guys just got back form cup.... Man that was a great time !!! I shoot the new gun and was about to buy it when the tech guy showed me the Vice.....
Look at the protege and think of it like an alias Marq mix, I saw a schematic of the vice after BS ing with the tech for about ten minuets. I tried to snap a pic of it but the guy was very adimate about me not leaking the pic because in good faith let me see it. Any guys who visited Bob's tent saw the chubby dude with glasses, he had a few pic's of the vice.
and Like I said is the protege looks like an alias then the vice with it's 3D milling looked more like an infamous design with the milling and lines. I told the dude I was holding out for it, and said it would be releases in two weeks. I'll have it shortly and I will post pic's and a review, going with red of course..... lol

Awww, now you've just got me all excited again Slimpikins.:P I remember being this excited about the release of the protege. But my excitement quickly turned to deep disapointment when I saw the finished/released product. I'm holding out for the vice, and "hopefully" it will be kinder to my eyes. If not, I may have to go back to my original plan and buy a marq...

Keep me posted mate.:tup:

IRStookmySpyder

10-30-2007, 09:48 PM

KeenDean- Lmao. I like how you said kinder to your eyes.

lopez17

10-30-2007, 10:29 PM

i dont know how much you paid for pods at WC but www.firstcallpaintball.com sells gen x global pods for a buck each which IMO is a good pod and a good price

Yeah, I paid just a bit more than that as First Call didn't have the quantity I needed at that time. No biggie though.

Hay guys just got back form cup.... Man that was a great time !!! I shoot the new gun and was about to buy it when the tech guy showed me the Vice.....
Look at the protege and think of it like an alias Marq mix, I saw a schematic of the vice after BS ing with the tech for about ten minuets. I tried to snap a pic of it but the guy was very adimate about me not leaking the pic because in good faith let me see it. Any guys who visited Bob's tent saw the chubby dude with glasses, he had a few pic's of the vice.
and Like I said is the protege looks like an alias then the vice with it's 3D milling looked more like an infamous design with the milling and lines. I told the dude I was holding out for it, and said it would be releases in two weeks. I'll have it shortly and I will post pic's and a review, going with red of course..... lol

The Vice pic you saw was done up by Incubus and dropped off (I'm assuming it was the display version with the stiff backing) on Friday. It's a nice rendering and should look amazing when it's done and in it's milled form. After shooting the Protege, I'll be getting a Vice. No doubt in my mind. :cheers:

IRStookmySpyder

10-30-2007, 10:30 PM

How much are the Vice's going to be again?

jrmiller

10-31-2007, 02:35 AM

How much are the Vice's going to be again?

i have heard 700 a few times. that might chance though dew to that its only going to have 2 eyes.

KeenDean

10-31-2007, 06:32 AM

KeenDean- Lmao. I like how you said kinder to your eyes.

Ha ha...

Well it's true. I'm not going to totally slate the protégé because I haven’t even held it never mind shoot it. So I can only comment on the aesthetics.

Look at all the other marker manufacturers who released there new toy's at the cup. For starters there was the DM8, the Ego8, and the MacDev Droid. All look fantastic with there 3-D milling and improved ergonomics and weight reduction. And then look at the protégé.

I think Bob Long has taken a step back with the protégé. I know he has released a marker that is at an affordable price for players who will undoubtedly be buying a face mower and is as light as a feather, but I personally think it looks awful. Compare it to his marq line of his markers. They look fantastic with the sleek 3-D milling and incorporate some “new to the industry” features. I’m pinning my hopes on the vice being a lot more “style over function”. And as reported will be a lot like the protégé, but looking quite similar to the marq.

IRStookmySpyder

10-31-2007, 07:35 AM

jrmiller- OK, thanks

KeenDean- ya, but I am sure that there are some people out there that are in love with the looks of the Protege. I hope that the Vice is what you want though.

Megatron

10-31-2007, 02:49 PM

I hope the vice does look infamous-ish, as that is my fav timmy body.....
also, can anyone confirm the efficiency rumors of 2000 shots per 68/45k fill?

IRStookmySpyder

10-31-2007, 08:18 PM

If that is true then that is pretty good efficiency out of a stock gun.

lopez17

11-01-2007, 02:49 PM

I hope the vice does look infamous-ish, as that is my fav timmy body.....
also, can anyone confirm the efficiency rumors of 2000 shots per 68/45k fill?

That's fact. I believe they were getting about 1900-2000ish out of the marker they were shooting at Cup. The Protege has a VERY solid internal design and the Vice will be for the folks that want the milling. After seeing the 08 Ego's and DM's that are nearly identical aesthetically to their 07 counterparts the Vice and Protege are a breath of fresh air.

Megatron

11-01-2007, 03:10 PM

WOW......very solid internal design indeed.....i'm itching to drop $550 on an infamous timmy but i think i'll wait for a vice.....wish i could get both:rolleyes:

IRStookmySpyder

11-01-2007, 05:45 PM

Megatron- I just wish I could get a Vice, but there isn't enough cash in my budget for all of that right now. Maybe if the price starts to drop some I can pick one up. If I were you though I would get the Vice since it has such great efficiency and it will probably look really cool.

Megatron

11-01-2007, 06:37 PM

i plan on it irs, and check out the costume thread again.... i think i posted bigger pics further down the thread;)

IRStookmySpyder

11-01-2007, 06:48 PM

Megatron- OK good, and I already did post back in there.

lopez17

11-01-2007, 09:12 PM

IRStookmySpyder

11-01-2007, 10:34 PM

lopez17- lol, that is kind of what I was thinking. See how it goes, make sure there are no glitches, and then wait for some kid decide that he doesn't like it.

Megatron

11-06-2007, 12:26 PM

so crankwalk......did you get to shoot your protege last weekend? Very eager to read your review.......

IRStookmySpyder

11-06-2007, 05:55 PM

I am in the same boat Megatron, I can't wait to read cranks review.

lopez17

11-06-2007, 06:22 PM

Hey Crank, if you're interested in using it this weekend and don't mind a bit of a road trip, my crew is playing at Warplay...where you can run it in uncapped ramp. :)

crankwalk

11-06-2007, 07:26 PM

Hey guys, sorry my bad about the review.. I went out to OA this Saturday and got a chance to let 'er rip

sunday was all day football and beer
monday i had to fill a bunch of orders after work and then watch monday night football
i'll try to get to it tonight

I'll have some comments and disassembly pics soon :tup:

IRStookmySpyder

11-06-2007, 08:47 PM

crankwalk- Nice, I can't wait to read the review man.

Megatron

11-07-2007, 11:57 AM

crankwalk, whats "OA"?

IRStookmySpyder

11-07-2007, 06:31 PM

Megatron- It is a paintball field down in Maryland. They have some pretty good stuff there I hear from my friends, but it is a little bit out of my distance, plus I have a field 4 minutes from my house.

lopez17

11-07-2007, 07:11 PM

crankwalk, whats "OA"?

Outdoor Adventures. A darn nice field near Annapolis MD off of Route 50...actually located between DC and Annapolis.

Though I think Crankwalk should drive to VA this weekend and come ball it up with us at Warplay. :cheers:

Megatron

11-07-2007, 07:27 PM

i am so jealous guys, there is only 1 organized field within a hundred or so mile radius from me (south central Louisiana), Splatz Paintball, and it, well, sucks....i guess it's alright considering there is nothing else except outlaw games (sometimes those are more fun) close to me....there is a place in mandeville Louisiana called Paintball Comand that is pretty decent but it is a 3 hour drive....still, even Paintball Command pales in comparison to some of the places on the east and west coast :(......okay i'm done b:+<#'n

lopez17

11-07-2007, 09:57 PM

I've got two large fields within 10 miles...within about 40 miles I have about a half dozen others. I'm kind of spoiled. :P

And the new Pevs field is going in less than 5 miles from my house. :tup:

Megatron

11-07-2007, 10:23 PM

I've got two large fields within 10 miles...within about 40 miles I have about a half dozen others. I'm kind of spoiled. :P

And the new Pevs field is going in less than 5 miles from my house. :tup:

......Pevs huh.......rub it in lopez rub it in;)

the incubus

11-08-2007, 12:16 AM

I hope the vice does look infamous-ish, as that is my fav timmy body.....

Nope... BETTER! IMO anyways.

I think it looks more racey than anything Bob's put out before, different... Very different from anything Bob's ever done.

I doubt many will be disappointed.

crankwalk

11-08-2007, 12:51 AM

Well, sorry for the delay guys, things are hectic around the house but here's step 1.. finally got time to get it all disassembled:

http://www.intimidatorowners.com/forums/files/images/protege-parts.jpg

I'll get some more info up soon.

And yes OA is a field in Maryland.. and lopez thanks for the invite but unfortunately I'm booked up for the weekend, wish I could join you guys :cheers:

KeenDean

11-08-2007, 05:40 AM

Nope... BETTER! IMO anyways.

I think it looks more racey than anything Bob's put out before, different... Very different from anything Bob's ever done.

I doubt many will be disappointed.

There I go again, getting all excited. Anyway has anyone heard of a confirmed release date for the vice yet?

By the way crankwalk, a great breakdown and it looks better than I first thought. Greatly appreciated by all timmy users looking to but a protege or vice, I'm sure...

IRStookmySpyder

11-08-2007, 07:34 AM

crankwalk great picture just like KeenDean said. It looks great IMO, I just wish I had enough money to buy one. Anyway I can't wait to read your review later.

Megatron

11-08-2007, 10:53 AM

lastmanstanding

11-08-2007, 01:24 PM

anyone know where and when we can start buying these beauties?

crankwalk

11-08-2007, 05:18 PM

lastmanstanding: give BLAST a call, their number is in the stickies, you can buy a Protege right now

Sl@sh

11-16-2007, 04:03 AM

so could i take the noid out of this and put it in a 2k5 timmy and still have it operate with the dwell at 5ms?

lopez17

11-16-2007, 07:18 AM

I've also heard that MurderInc has these for sale for $499.

IRStookmySpyder

11-16-2007, 09:21 AM

lopez17- Isn't that a really good price?

AirSin

11-18-2007, 03:15 AM

so could i take the noid out of this and put it in a 2k5 timmy and still have it operate with the dwell at 5ms?

No.

I want to get one real bad.

lopez17

11-18-2007, 09:30 AM

Incredibly good. They're selling Vice's on preorder for $699...I know two people who have bought them.

IRStookmySpyder

11-18-2007, 10:12 AM

lopez17- Oh, why are they selling them for so cheap?

lopez17

11-18-2007, 11:44 AM

Because they can. MAP is $550, but it doesn't mean they can't sell lower. Their cost is probably $425-450, so they're still making a profit.

jrmiller

11-19-2007, 01:48 AM

I've also heard that MurderInc has these for sale for $499.

thats a awsome price. i might have to get one for that price. :tup::cool:

IRStookmySpyder

11-20-2007, 10:17 PM

lopez17- Oh, OK. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

jrmiller- I would before they sell out or raise the price.

gun slayer

11-21-2007, 06:32 AM

I've also heard that MurderInc has these for sale for $499.

not any more

as of this post on their website the listed price is $549

unless they hack off part of the price during checkout or something

http://www.murderincpaintball.com/page.php?pg=product&id1=&id3=1&product_id=308

IRStookmySpyder

11-21-2007, 07:32 AM

gun slayer- looks like your right, no more sale or low list price.

lopez17

11-21-2007, 05:33 PM

Call them or PM. They can't advertise lower than MAP, which is why you need to call/PM.

IRStookmySpyder

11-25-2007, 10:09 PM

Crankwalk did you ever write that review? Let me know, thanks.

crankwalk

11-25-2007, 11:47 PM

Ah man, very sorry to all who were waiting - been swamped at work, end of the month deliverables coming due, plus Thanksgiving activities haven' allowed me much time to take care of PB stuff. I'll still write something short up when I get a chance.

IRStookmySpyder

11-26-2007, 10:42 AM

crankwalk- no rush man, I was just making sure that I didn't miss it a couple pages back or something. I am sure that most of us have been swamped with work lately since it is getting closer to Christmas and everything. Just post up a review when ever you get some time, thanks.

crankwalk

12-30-2007, 11:29 AM

Well, someone beat me to it since I procrastinated for so long :D

Here is a great 5th Gen Timmy maintenance guide

http://intimidatorowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464

lopez17

12-30-2007, 07:42 PM

Be sure to leave a review at PBR. :P

thaiboxer9

03-24-2008, 11:28 PM

Crankwalk, how soon can we read your personal review?

This marker really growing on me. I'm planning to buy by the end of this year but not sure if I can wait that long...:o Now saving up so I can buy it around mid-year...:D

crankwalk

03-25-2008, 12:54 PM

I am embarrassed to say I never posted a review and at this time the Protege is in pieces as I've been trying to size up spare o-rings and screws to make rebuild kits for this marker

http://www.intimidatorowners.com/forums/files/images/protege-parts.jpg

With the unveiling of the VICE, the Protege has come down in price on the Used market, you should be able to find something nice for fairly cheap vs. the original MSRP - so you might be able to get it sooner than mid year? ;)

If anyone else has any personal Protege reviews please post up. I will try to get a review up as soon as I can get the marker back together :D

I know Lopez bought a VICE - maybe he has some insight into the Gen5s

acesn8s

03-26-2008, 09:41 AM

I know this might sound like blasphamy, but not a whole lot to upgrade is there?

Oh first post by the way.

B-Pow

03-26-2008, 11:01 AM

I know this might sound like blasphamy, but not a whole lot to upgrade is there?

Oh first post by the way.

Are you supprized, look at all the other companies...what is there to upgrade on a ego8, dm8, pm8, or even the marq...most companies are releasing guns with upgrades standard...and at worst they could /use/ 1 or 2 things that would actually change anything.

And for the protoge you can get the vice bolt (pillow bolt) and the 4 eye system...and a new board if you really want to...

Many players need to realize that stock parts does not equal bad parts...usually.

Daigz525

03-28-2008, 04:28 PM

To tell you the truth, I have a protege and there are some upgrades needed. The eyes are nice if you want to run around the woods shooting 30+ BPS but really it's not needed.

The board can be upgraded but in general the stock one has just about everything that you could want on it. It's just a pain having to flip switches inside the grip just to adjust something.

One nice upgrade is the feedneck, the stock one is pretty tall, I got a low pro version for a marq that turned out to fit well. Also the barrel that the protege comes with is terrible, the BL assassin = worthless.

I am in the process of ordering an upgraded trigger (one of the CF ones that have been reviewed in depth on this site). The bolt isn't needed unless you are shooting really brittle paint or are in a colder climate. I have the stock in FL and shoot evil with no breaks.

There are a few other upgrades that I would love to see come out, one is magnetic ball detents. The ones that are in there use a spring and so far I have crushed 2 of them after cleaning the eyes off.

I just saw that there are new bolt pins out for the Protege, supposedly help with air efficiency but I will be picking one up soon to find out for sure. Basically they are just lighter.

That is all the upgrades that I have found while looking around online. In my personal opinion the only upgrades that are needed would be feedneck and barrel. Other than that everything else is just personal preference.