Hall Effect trigger

[jrick47]

Anyone else have a Hall Effect sensor in thier Intimidator?

I recently put one in my 2K2 and my Dragon that I sold to a friend. After reading about it years ago on PBN, done by Countermeasure, I finally got around to trying it.

Problem I have is that they work fine with WAS boards, but not my 127.4 Frenzy. Anyone have any idea why this would be?

http://www.intimidatorowners.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=358&pictureid=2214

[outreach]

i was under the impression that hall effect switches were banned?

[jrick47]

I'm pretty sure they are not, considering there are e-grips for the A5 and X7 with Hall effect sensors and AGD used them on the E-Mag

[timekeeper]

not to mention the invert (Kee) mini

[the incubus]

The ones that were banned were the ones with no trigger at all. Your fingers would trip the beam within the Guard area and that was the system that was deemed too unsafe for paintball.


I always thought this would be how Marker and Board manufacturers could get around the microswitch patents but no one has done it as of yet so maybe the costs are too high to justify the effort?

[jrick47]

I don't know why they wouldnt use that as a bypass either, its not expensive at all.
I used a DN6849SE sensor - cost $1.53. The magnets are from radio shack for like two bucks a pair. The only issue I would see is that the magnet needed to be closer than I thought, and has to pass over the sensor and took a little fiddling to find the right spot. But after that it is fine. I can still adjust the tension with the magnets and the throw of the trigger, just have to change the activation point of the magnet again.
The trigger pull is nice and smooth and there is no bounce

[devinkato]

awesome! i notice that the hall effect sensor has 3 wires going to it.

I assume that 2 of them are simply the same as normal switch and are connected with the magnet passes over it. What is the 3rd one for? Power?

[jrick47]

Actually you only use the yellow trigger lead connected to the 3rd pin, first one is power and 2nd is ground. When the magnet passes over the sensor it drives the output to ground which registers a trigger pull.
Here are the links to the original pbnation threads, Countermeasure was the one who originally made it


http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=224910&page=2&highlight=hall+effe ct


http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=272210&page=2&highlight=hall+effe ct

both start on page 2

[jrick47]

Well, I finally took another look at the Frenzy board and discovered that a trigger pull is detected opposite than on a WAS board. On the WAS the yellow trigger lead sits at 5 volts and is pulled down to ground on the blue lead when the microswitch is engaged, which is why my Hall effect sensor works. But the Frenzy needs the blue lead to receive the 5 volts from the yellow lead to activate.
So in order to use a Frenzy I need to find a Hall effect sensor that can output 5 volts, which i havent had much luck so far, or wire up something additional to get it, however i really dont want to intoduce anymore elements that could intoduce delay.

[rye]

Doesnt the Mini use a hall effect (kinda of)? Hall effect, opti, reflective etc all those switches do not have the bounce of a micro switch and the trigger feels meh. IMHO. Why I always put micros in my angels.

[rye]

Well, I finally took another look at the Frenzy board and discovered that a trigger pull is detected opposite than on a WAS board. On the WAS the yellow trigger lead sits at 5 volts and is pulled down to ground on the blue lead when the microswitch is engaged, which is why my Hall effect sensor works. But the Frenzy needs the blue lead to receive the 5 volts from the yellow lead to activate.
So in order to use a Frenzy I need to find a Hall effect sensor that can output 5 volts, which i havent had much luck so far, or wire up something additional to get it, however i really dont want to intoduce anymore elements that could intoduce delay.


There are switching, yours is sinking. I did a quick search as not really interested but they have them in 24v,